Average Speed of Tiki 21

tatoski, Head on over to Scott Williams blog about his tiki 21: [url]http://tiki21element.blogspot.com/[/url] Lots of good info! He sold the boat (He is currently building what will be a wonderful tiki 26: [url]http://tiki26element2.blogspot.com/[/url] ) For example, Scott's comments on his last sail on Element: "Last day of sailing in the Mississippi Sound. That's me with Element on the beach at Deer Island during a break in the demo sail. We had strong SE winds that day, and averaged 10 knots and higher reaching back and forth between Deer Island and Point Cadet." [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zYVXpWl9Pa4/RnkQFs8-_II/AAAAAAAAAX8/IEe-jLwtw3...

A lot depends on the sea state. . .Going to windward against steep, short period waves will slow you down; such waves will slow everyone down. In such waves, you will get better speed by bearing off rather than trying to point to high.

The planning speed is not the speed you will make in ideal conditions but the average you might make on a trip allow for light winds etc. A 21 foot monohull would probably plan on 3 knots, though in good conditions they could be making 5 or more knots. On passage in my Hinemoa we would easily be matching family cruisers like the larger Westerleys unless the conditions were rough. I would have to look in our logs for actual speeds but a few years ago in our tiki 30 beating in a F4 with relatively flat seas we easily catching and overhauling bigger monos, we slowed up to about 6 - 7 knots when the sea got lumpy and the ride uncomfortable (might have spilt our tea).

Hi Tatoski, I am just working up my Tiki 21 and I havn't got everything right yet, but on Saturday we averaged 6 to 7 knots in a force 2 to 3 breeze with a 1 ft. short swell. The thing that really impressed me is that these boats seem to be just as fast on a beam reach or running before the wind. I don't thing you will have any trouble keeping up with the company as long as you have worked your boat up. I guess in ideal conditions and flat water these boats are capable of 12.5 to 15 knots without scaring the pants off you, Good luck with the launch,, Regards JACKIE.

Hi Tatoski Since I am perhaps partially responsible for recommending the Tiki 21 to you I would be happy to assist in your route planning for your trip during the next Amihan (NE monsoon for those not familiar). I made the trip in my Tiki 21 several years ago, all standard set up and camping equipment for 2 persons. Anilao to Puerto Galera, just a few hours. Average speed 6 knots. Puerto Galera to Baco islands. This wont be a great anchorage for the keel boats and beating against the Verde Island passage swell was tough in the tiki. Consider anchoring off Calapan. This leg will be your hardest if its blowing (always does in the passage) and very wet. You may not keep up with keelboats on this leg so set off at the crack of dawn. (low average speed). Calapan to Maestro de Campo: Once around the corner at calapan, great sailing, wind forward of the beam then becoming aft of the beam as you head for maestro. You will be able to average 6-7 knots on this leg. Maestro to Tablas, Looc Bay: All downwind surfing, lighter winds in the am average 5-6 knots, followed by stronger pm winds average 8-9 knots. Looc Bay to Boracay: All downwind again, only a few hours. The reef extends a long way out off white beach which will affect the keelboats. Boracay to Semirara: Beam wind, average 5-8 knots depending strength of Amihan. Note: wind around the bottom of Mindoro can blow hard, sail on the leeward side of the islands around Semirara. Watch out for fishing lines near the reefs, I caught one on my skegs and nearly capsized doing 10 knots! Not a great anchorage for the keelboats, check the charts, I have friends who have stopped there, deep water but the tiki can get up to a small beach. Semirara to Coron: About 70 miles. Plan to overnight this leg to arrive in the channel that goes to Coron town. I arrived in the dark....not easy at all...too many reefs/rocks, a disaster waiting for the keelboats. I would recommend flagging down a local banca (theres plenty) and ask him to guide you through...its worth the 200 pesos you can tip him. Failing that, somebody up the mast at noon to spot the reefs. Use Coron Town as your base. From there you can go to some amazing bays, the 'hole in the wall', out to North Cay, South Cay, Tangat Island, plus so much more. Theres lots more info. If you like, let me know and I'll advise on going the other way around Mindoro. Hope this helps. Dan

Hi Tatoski I came up the west coast of Mindoro in the Tiki T21 (plus the tiki 26 and one or two keelboats). Amihan is normally strong there and Cape Calavite is the cape Horn of the Philippines. Heading North is tough, even for large yachts with not all able to get round. I was lucky...dead calm, went around with a 2 hp!! Since you are heading south you will be fine. The Philippine Hobie Challenge went around there a few years ago....be sure to reef down in advance and sail at a moderate speed. Wind over tide conditions can make for several miles of overfalls so try to time it with the tide going west. I have stopped at Golo/Lubang for the night, also Pandan island, and Apo reef. From Apo, head south to Maricaban Bay, there is a resort, sister company to Club Paradise that is the water sports centre. They have deals for yachties, cheaper beer, free transport to coron, plus moorings. Very friendly and good for a couple of days. Let us know how it goes. Dan

No, afraid not....that was a great boat. I had the boat surfing at 17 knots once! Its currently for sale in Phuket, Thailand. I dont know the current owner but he e-mailed to say it was there since I am currently working over here in Thailand. No time for me to go down and see it though.