Tiki 8m sailing

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Tiki 8m sailing
Hi All, First of all I'd like to introduce myself. After sailing on all kinds of crafts ranging from Drascombes and sailboards, all kinds of production monohulls up to a 10m/15 tons long keeled wooden Colin Archer my focus for a shallow draft seaworthy responsive low maintenance trailerable famility cruiser suddenly became clear and decided for a 26' Tiki. Now I'm in the middle of purchasing the yellow hulled Tiki 8m prototype (Frygga) from Hanneke Boon and James Wharram. If all goes as planned I'll sail her from Devoran (UK) to my home port Durgerdam (near Amsterdam in Holland) in May next year. I intend to use Frygga for sailing on the IJsselmeer and Waddenzee area with my wife and two young kids. Off course I'm very excited to become the owner of such a fine craft and look forward to get to know the Tiki's further and learn 'the tricks of the trade'. Last summer I sailed Frygga for the first time, this was in fact my first sail on a Tiki, and further to that have the following queries: - are there clear signs while sailing which tell you that boat's at the end her stability range when hard pressed. In other words can you clearly judge the moment when she's about to lift a hull? - Frygga had no tiller extentioner (joy stick) fitted. Holding the crossbar for an extensive amount of time became uncomfortable. Do you all sail with joy sticks, if so would you advise one or two mounted on the cross bar? - I'm thinking of making up a self steering wind vane. I've got some old PCA magazines with pictures of the set up Rory used on Cookie. It looks to me that the vane could be mounted on either side of the boat and that it was directly connected to the tillers. Would any of you advise to use this on the Tiki's 26/8m as well? All advise and information is welcome. Look forward to hear from you. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Cheers, Eric
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My T21 doesn't have a tiller extension. I was thinking of fitting one but after sailing her a while, I realised that the boat has great directional stability with a piece of elastic from each tiller to the outer cleat and you don't need to keep you hands on the bar all of the time.
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Eric, Vaea has a "joystick," and I find it works out very well. I can sit on the cabin top, stand up from within the cabin thru the hatch, etc. The only time I really use the tiller bar is for close quarters, as in getting out of the slip. The consensus on catamarans is to reef for the gusts, not the average wind speed. In the plans, James has a stability chart that recommends setting the first reef for sustained 19 knot breeze, with a lightly loaded boat, ie, two people out daysailing. On Vaea, when a significant gust comes over the beam and hits the trimmed main, the increase in weather helm is quite noticeable, as the lee hull gets pushed deeper. I quickly let out the mainsheet enough to ease the helm, and the tendency to roundup into the wind. That is, unless you desire roostertail spray coming off the rudders!! ;) Here is a shot of Helmut Reider's Aura showing the windward hull's bottom paint: [img]http://www.austrian-wharrams.org/IMAGES/h_rieder_t26_wind_rumpf_hoch.jpg... One reef in the main, and a full jib in 20-25 knots
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Kim, Thanks for you info. I tink I'll go for a single tiller extensioner. While reading your description of Vaea heading up into the wind I was wondering if your sail has battens to stabilize it''s shape in a gust? I've read your message on the forum a while ago on this subject and agree on the analysis that it is probably the aft movement of the centre of effort due to the gust causing causing this tendency. I used to windsurf a lot and in the 'old days', say 20 years ago, when the sails weren't that stable yet you could feel the centre of effort moving aft in a gust. Among others stiffer (continuous) properly profiled battens and lot's of downhall did reduce this tendency. Cheers, Eric :ugeek:
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My old main did not have any battens, Eric, so that may have been the case. The new main I just hung does have two batten pockets: [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/4125500531_7ab5ddd58c.jpg[/img] The battens weren't installed yet when I took this shot. I'm looking forward to seeing how they work. :)
Anonymous (not verified)
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Let us know your experiences of the new main sail! Regards, Eric
Anonymous (not verified)
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This is the first sail of hull #2 of the Wharam Tiki 8m. [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2662/4189198578_96ca68e6df_b.jpg[/img]
Anonymous (not verified)
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new here with a french pahi 26, i wanted to transform the classic rig by tiki rig following the very interesting experiences and clever advices of glenn . by the way to change all with dineema . but now i am waiting your experience with tiki 8m ... ?
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a utub clip of our Tiki 8m sailing in very light air[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFEGWexJ8tc[/url]
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